Letter in The Guardian
You report that Gaddafi’s family has fled Libya, including his sons and his daughter Aisha “and their children” – and that their fate remains unclear (Report, 30 August). The fate of several of those children is clear: on 30 April Nato killed Aisha Gaddafi’s four-month-old daughter Mastoura, and her nephews Seif and Carthage, both two (Report, 8 June). Given that your readers funded the killing of these children, it seems an odd detail to omit.
Peter McKenna
Liverpool
There is the centre-right, Bob, there is the left and then there are Them. The people doing the killing are them – not from either side and yet nominally from one or the other.
I’m interested in the notion that there is the centre right … a
and the left., James. Where did the right disappear to?
Bob; I don’t know what you make of the situation in Libya at the moment; but if the broadcast that Gaddafi has made has any substance, and he has some sort of a rump of a militia he may be capable of waging a guerrilla campaign against the National Transitional Council’s new administration, or it maybe that he is completely finished,as would seem likely. But just looking at Newsnight tonight and comments made about Libya being not so much of a nation but more of a country made up of about 150 tribes, it seems to me that unless Gaddafi is completely smashed(and it would certainly seem so from the media, but again how many times have they got their forecasts wrong on international affairs in the last 40 years) he and what he has left of his forces could wreak havoc in the chaos of the new era starting in Libya. Hopefully Gaddafi is a completely spent force, and the Libyan people can start to build a new and progressive non-aligned state from the ruins of this disastrous war, although looking at the conference in Paris today it would seem that they will have to be on their guard, because behind the U.N. and N.A.T.O. leaders and their platitudes and cliches the oil companie’s and all the other carpet-baggers are gathering to help themselves to Libya’s oil riches and the reconstruction work that will be needed to get Libya back to normal. And the beauty of it all is that they will have a head start when all the frozen assets of the Libyan state are returned, and the oil wells are pumping oil at their pre-war levels. Bob; I don’t know if you saw the discussion on Newsnight on, I believe, Tuesday night with Douglas Hurd and Jonathan Powell on the aftermath of the war in Libya, and the situation in the Maghreb and the Near East in general, but as the discussion progressed Powell stated ,what for me, has been the whole basis of Western/N.A.T.O. policy(I certainly don’t think it was a slip of the tongue) for the last 25 years; Powell’s remark/s were after the West has sorted Assad out in Syria, now Gaddafi has gone; we can deal with the real objective of Western policy,Iran. So for me Bob, there you have in a nutshell, the whole strategy of Western/N.A.T.O. policy, I know there may be many who will say such idea’s are poppycock, and Powell is a private citizen who doesn’t represent H.M.G.s policy,or speak for H.M.G. but he is a very influential individual , with many contacts in the Foreign Office and other inportant government departments and the Establishment.
None of that surprises me, Gerald, although I didn’t see the programmes you refer to. The Middle East is the latest colonial playground and with the fall of the Soviet Empire the military industrial complex which runs the western powers need more bogeymen to frighten the population with and allow them to maintain their sales. Orwell’s three constantly warring superpowers with shifting alliances in ’1984′ was an excellent prediction.
Bang on Bob; As you say the Mlitary Industrial Complex (that Eisenhower, of all people, warned us against in 1960) or its agents are always looking for a crisis to turn into a war. IMHO, Gaddafi’s regime was no worse than that of Algeria’s Egypt’s or Tunisia’s, and it never bothered the oil companie’s or the other big multi national companie’s that were trying to get the embargo lifted on Gaddafi’s regime so that they could do business with him,. Make no mistake Cameron and Sarkozy would have been prepared to do business with him, when, not if , the circumstances permitted. It remains a mystery to me why Cameron and Sarkozy got involved in this campaign, they couldn’t have given a toss about the Libyans in Benghazi or Tripoli, unless you see it as either a campaign to divert attention away from their domestic difficultie’s, or, more than likely when the reports of how the intelligence agencies were involved with what were groups or individuals involved with what was to become the National Transitional Council; on the basis that they were there at the beginning of the campaign to overthrow Gaddafi(this is the classic way of the C.I.A, M.I.5/6 and all the other intelligence mobs) and their respective governments will benefit through being favoured by the new regime, as is being hinted at in the Guardian and other media sources. Surprised old Duffers hasn’t been on to tell us how deluded and paranoid we both are, seeing conspiracie’s all over the place, do you reckon he may have been carted off to the old peoples home under regular sedation, his inane ramblings having caught up with him at last?
Worse are the letters from Blair and Brown to Gaddaffi, and somebody said to me this war was about protecting people, not Oil my bloody ass even the Tories are now chasing the Oil contracts
I think the initials of Operation Iraqi Liberation speak for themselves.