Cameron apology for lying about Gerry Adams

10 Responses to Cameron apology for lying about Gerry Adams

1. David Duff says:

   January 27, 2011 at 4:57 pm

   I realise that accuracy is not high on your agenda, Councillor, as you drift along in your socialist pipe-dreams but the key sentence is this:

   Meanwhile Adams claims that the prime minister’s private secretary apologised to him for David Cameron’s point-scoring.

   Obviously you have a liking for blog sites which favour murderers and liars. Somewhat akin to your choice of holiday destinations!

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   • bobpiper says:

     January 27, 2011 at 6:55 pm

     And on whose behalf do you think the Private Secretary was apologising for the lies.

     And it’s a bit rich to see the apologist for the regimes in the United States wittering on about murderers and liars. Very droll.

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     • David Duff says:

       January 28, 2011 at 9:57 am

       Oh dear, this is proving even more difficult than I thought. The key phrase in the sentence which I took the trouble to highlight is “Adams claims“. Now, Councillor, keep repeating that and then read the whole sentence whilst bearing in mind my nudge-nudge, wink-wink hint concerning “murderers and liars“.

       And whilst I realise that your knowledge of history is as carefully selective as your holiday resorts run by dictators, allow me to remind you that it was an American “regime” which aided and abetted Adams’s murderous outfit and that was something for which I was never an apologist.

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       • bobpiper says:

         January 28, 2011 at 10:12 am

         Well, as we now know that George Osborne ‘appointed’ Gerry Adams to a Crown position, and he not only hadn’t applied for it he had not accepted it either, so it is clear Cameron lied to the House of Commons. So if he hasn’t had the good grace to apologise, and most accept that he has through his private secretary, he certainly has some apologising to do.

         Nice to see you have at least temporarily stopped doffing your cap to your US masters, but even though I have been to Florida and Nevada in recent years I don’t think you should start to refer to them as dictators.

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2. ed says:

   January 28, 2011 at 12:55 pm

   bob piper is completely wrong – the apology was only about the fact that adams was not told beforehand by cameron’s office that he was going to say what he said in the house of commons – in other words sorry for the lack of courtesy – the substance of cameron’s remarks stand – adams is still a baron – by putting in his letter of reisignation adams automatically applied for an office of profit under the crown, in this case the stewardship of northfield – he doesn’t have to apply for it nor formally accept it as he automatically becomes the baron of northfield – in ireland some wits have come up with variations on the title: http://www.broadsheet.ie/2011/01/26/gerry-adams-steward-of-the-crown/

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   • bobpiper says:

     January 28, 2011 at 4:10 pm

     Which is, of course, more down to the outdated cobblers which constitute the rules of our monarchy, and the sooner that both the rules and the monarchy are scrapped, so much the better. Saying that someone has accepted something they have never even been offered makes the whole thing a complete farce, no wonder people look at these fools and laugh out loud. And it still doesn’t avoid the fact that Cameron lied.

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3. ed says:

   January 28, 2011 at 1:10 pm

   further to my earlier comment, here is what the irish times (ireland’s paper of record) has to say about the story and it seems mr adams has accepted the title, as cameron said, by virtue of the fact that he has not refused it. sorry bob!
   http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0128/1224288460261.html

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   • bobpiper says:

     January 28, 2011 at 4:06 pm

     Which, of course, is a nonsense. Adams doesn’t recognise the authority of the Crown, has never pledged allegiance to it, nor ever requested or accepted any of the public schoolboy posts associated with his resignation. Cameron lied to the House. He said that Adams had “accepted an offer of an office of profit under the crown.” That is a lie. Whatever “Ireland’s paper of record” says, I will instead accept the word of Sir George Young, the Leader of the House when he acknowledged that Cameron should have said that Gerry Adams had been appointed to an office of profit under the crown, not that he had accepted it and it would have been better had Cameron said that.

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     • ed says:

       January 29, 2011 at 10:40 am

       if i say to you, ‘here’s 20 quid’, you stay silent and you don’t refuse it, instead putting it in your pocket then i’m entitled to say you accepted it. which is what gerry adams has done with his baronetcy. suck it up bob, you’re beginning to look silly.

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       • bobpiper says:

         January 29, 2011 at 1:58 pm

         No, Ed, it’s you who are making a fool of yourself, because your analogy is stupid… but it gives me an opportunity to extend the analogy and expose the stupidity.

         A more apt analogy is you sitting in your house and saying, ‘here, Bob, here’s 20 quid’. Obviously I have no knowledge of your generosity, and because I am in my home I am therefore in no position to acknowledge it, never mind accept it. And then you rush around telling everyone how you have given me 20 quid and I have accepted it.

         Keep it coming Ed… this is fun!

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