Nailing the lie

9 Responses to Nailing the lie

1. Newmania says:

   September 26, 2010 at 2:10 am

   That article is onlty a re-hash of the case Brown was making.I am afraid when you leave deficits of 12% and are shocked when markest prove unstable only two options are liar or cretin
   You choose

   Pleased to get Red Ed in are you Bob ? At least on that we can agree

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   • bobpiper says:

     September 26, 2010 at 8:35 am

     You are either unable to read, or to comprehend.

     Your choice.

     I voted for Ed Miliband, (I’ll refrain from using your Sunspeak) so on that basis, I suppose pleased, yes.

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2. mike says:

   September 26, 2010 at 11:25 am

   Never understood why that lie was not nailed many times, the clowns just sat and looked offended when ever it was used, why ? I was shouting at the telly what about the USA was that Gordons fault too. However it appears that the voters actually put Gordon way down the list in blame for our economic woes, which is interesting. Good news is when the cuts arrive and all those good folk who think they’ve already started realize it’s only just beginning, then will be your (our) time. PMQs will be the battleground, that was the place used by Rich Dave to taunt a decent man, I liked Gordon but he was not a PMQ kind of a guy. I’ve seen Ed on Newsnight, and like his brother the guy is unflappable, can’t wait to see how Rich Dave performs, all it needs is for him to make one embarrassing slip and it’ll haunt him for ever, every PMQs will be a nightmare, and that will be when Eds unflappability will win the day. I’ve seen the light, and I’m jumping back onto the good ship Labour, Rich Dave out, Unflappable Ed in, what do we want ?

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3. Jailhouselawyer says:

   September 26, 2010 at 1:32 pm

   I have recently read this “the mess we inherited from Labour” in relation to the prisoners votes. Whilst it is true that Labour are guilty of doing nothing to fully comply with Hirst v UK (No2) for 5 years, it is also true that neither the Tories nor LibDems challenged this stance in the House of Commons whilst in opposition. Therefore it can be said that the mire in their own pants is of their own making.

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4. Nicky says:

   September 27, 2010 at 9:29 am

   Like Mike, I find it frustrating that Labour haven’t been fighting back a bit more over the ‘Labour’s mess’ lie. However, we often don’t get their side of things reported in our biased media.

   The most despicable thing about the ConDem politicians’ continual parroting of this lie, is that they themselves know it’s a lie. Have they been taking tips from Josef Goebbels? In 1941 JG wrote:

   The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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5. Nicky says:

   September 27, 2010 at 9:42 am

   BTW, I don’t want to sound like I approve of Goebbels. It was an unfair appraisal of Churchill’s government – a case of he would say that, wouldn’t he.

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6. AndyN says:

   September 27, 2010 at 10:54 am

   Chris Mullin: one can only guess at the hysteria that would have been organised by the Tories and their friends had Labour attempted to tighten regulation of the financial sector at the height of the boom

   So Labour didn’t regulate because it feared Tory-engineered “hysteria”? What utter nonsense. With an unassailable parliamentary majority and most of the media being carried around in Alastair Campbell’s back pocket, the Tories posed absolutely no threat to the Labour government in the so-called “boom” years.

   Gordon Brown could have tightened banking regulation had he been so inclined, but that would have holed the debt bubble that was propping up his Chancellorship. Instead, he ignored the elephant in the room and spent his time finding additional things to tax while blathering about how “prudent” he was.

   I like Chris Mullin, but Labour really needs to stop blaming everyone else (America, the media, the Tories, the bankers) for the fuck-ups that occurred when it was supposed to be running the country.

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   • bobpiper says:

     September 27, 2010 at 1:17 pm

     Perverse. You quote Chris Mullin and then criticise something he didn’t actually say. An interesting, if not totally dishonest debating tactic. Mullin doesn’t say that was the reason Labour didn’t tighten regulation, he simply pointed out that the hypocritical Tories and their little Liberal friends would have screamed blue murder about it.

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     • Andrew says:

       September 27, 2010 at 5:02 pm

       And, of course, if the regulations were not tightened one has to ask who created them in the first place? Who ever that was (M Thatcher Esq) obviously thoght that they were adequate.

       I wonder what Thatcher and Howe have to say about the proposals to reintroduce credit controls to reduce irresponsible borrowing. As one involved in the finance industry when the shackles came off I can say ‘told you so’ – not least because I walked away from the consumer side of the industry in 1986 when lending became volume based as opposed to risk based.

       Market economics fuelled by greed – on the part of lenders and borrowers.

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