I can see the poppy field, however, I am unable to see the "Lions".

Apparently, there was some kind of a show on TV last night in relation to Lest We Forget. I just saw the bit where the commentator said "Pride of place is given to the soldiers who have recently returned from Iraq and Afghanistan".

I don't think there is anything to be proud about wars. Hero worship on the one hand, and on the other "The war to end all wars". It is one thing to remember, quite another to celebrate.

The reference, John, is to the brave men in the trenches of the first world war, sent to their deaths by politicians and generals. The lions led by donkeys...

You cannot blame the soldiers in Iraq they have died for queen and country, if you want to blame somebody then Blame the people who sent them Tony Blair and Labour.

Yes, Bob, I am aware of that famous quote and knew it was what you were referring to. All I am saying is I don't believe it is a cause for celebration. Nor, do I think it is proper for Nick Herbert to attempt to hijack it by falsely claiming that today marks the 10th anniversary of the Human Rights Act, and that the legislation was meant to embody the values that our servicemen fought and died for.

Robert... I know it makes you feel better if I write something you can disagree with, but it might help everyone to understand what you are talking about if you wait until I do. Please take the time to point to where I have apportioned blame.

John... similar, really, I am remembering those who made the ultimate sacrifice... not celebrating anything.

I looked at this photo and remembered my Uncle, a conscientious objector who went through the first and second war as a stretcher bearer in the front line, my other Uncles who fought and some died, cousins that fought and died and my father who fought and came home.

I remembered them all. I have never come across anyone who 'celebrates'.

Was it something I said?

I was not suggesting that you celebrate anything Bob. I just got the impression from the BBC that it was a cause to celebrate. Like a passing out parade, or students obtaining their degree. I was particularly struck by those who were killed in the last few hours of the First World War. The General who caused the loss of 1,500 lives just to give his troops a bath, when a few hours later the Germans would have surrendered the town and the baths. And Wilfred Owen, although killed on the 6th of November, his parents were informed of his death on Armistice Day. For me this makes it all the more tragic.