Bob Piper has been a Labour Councillor for the Abbey
Ward in Sandwell, West Midlands, for 10 years. He is a lifelong supporter of Aston Villa Football Club and a follower of Yorkshire County Cricket Club.
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Cameron sees the ball clearly as it is crossed into the middle... he takes careful aim, and then, with unerring accuracy... he slams it in to his own net.
But to call it "sick, ignorant and an insult to those who have perished and those who still live today with the memories of the darkest moments in human history" is just pompous, I'm afraid.
I don't believe that was Cameron's intention for one second. It was just another one of his cheap jibes and he hasn't got the common sense to know when they are crass and insensitive. It shows him up for the Bullingdon boy that he is. "It would be funny if it wasn't so serious" he said. Precisely, son.
I think there is a case that these trips should be funded entirely from Gov't/Lottery funding. This does not seem to be the case when one looks at details of what is proposed.
The Tories have been monumentally clumsy on this but I think that Balls is becoming the Kaufman of our time - he needs to be kept somewhere that he can't fighten the horses. On this matter I think he is guilty of exactly what accuses the other side of.
Cameron was only pointing out that the Government has said that children from every school in the country should be sent to Auschwitz, only to send each school a bill for £100 per pupil towards the cost. The Conservatives would pay the full cost of the trip.
newmania said:
February 23, 2008 10:34 AM | permalink
Yes yes its all your game though isn`t it. You started this thought control and you ply your wearisome trade daily.
I have a feeling the English a tired about being told what they can and cannot say by you and your kind.
Bob, it is a cheap gimmick though! Why can't history books be used to teach students about the holocaust? Will the political parties compete to get more students to visit the death camps!?!
Perhaps the visits should be used to remind us what can happen when the state knows too much about our personal lives...
Robert said:
February 23, 2008 1:17 PM | permalink
Yes he is crass, so are we to forget what we did in Africa and the millions we killed, we we formed the word concentration camps.
The fact is kids to day are not interested, they care about Iraq and about Afghanistan because it's within their life time, not to long ago a number of so called socialist stated the UK has no right in Afghanistan and we should allow the Tali ban to re take the country because it's theirs.
Funny my memory always go back to the young women kneeling down in the Football stadium while one of the murdering scum took a sword and cut her head off.
We remember the German Holocaust yet forget our own death camps, we in fact love to see China hold games to take your breath away, while half the country are to scared to have a girl child.
I for one know about the problems the Jews went through, I also know that most German knew dam well what was going on, how do you know that mate, my father was in the Hitler youth before joining the Luftwaffe. His family said they knew what was going on in Germany but decided it was not for them to say anything, perhaps scared. perhaps happy, I've know idea, I do know we have a dam well right to stop this from happening again, hence Afghanistan
Gary Elsby stoke said:
February 23, 2008 7:18 PM | permalink
My local school invited a 93 years old Holocaust survivor to speak of the hoorrors of Auschwitz. The BNP called him a liar and said that 6,000,000 Jews were not gassed and murdered in the death camps of Europe, it was only 3000 and they died of coughs and colds.
My a sizable party from my local school has just come back from Auschwitz and they are horrified at what the human race did in that period.
I have no comment to make on Dave's alleged gaffe.He would be mad to say such things towards this generation that I have found to be quite clued up.
Whichever way you look at it this was an old-school Tory gaffe of the finest kind. Even funnier has been the outrage of Tory posters round these parts: "This is evidence of a biased media, what about all the other genocides etc." Come on guys, Cameron fell on his face and it was hilarious, no more, no less.
I would expect Karen Pollock, the chief executive of the Holocaust Educational Trust, to support and welcome an extension of Government funding of this particular project.
No it doesn't, actually. Individual donations account for two-thirds of the Trust's income. However, I would also expect her to welcome the extension of Government funding because it is a very worthwhile project.
February 23, 2008 9:56 AM | permalink
I think there is a case that these trips should be funded entirely from Gov't/Lottery funding. This does not seem to be the case when one looks at details of what is proposed.
The Tories have been monumentally clumsy on this but I think that Balls is becoming the Kaufman of our time - he needs to be kept somewhere that he can't fighten the horses. On this matter I think he is guilty of exactly what accuses the other side of.
Make him manager of Birmingham City!