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Relax... Don't do it!   » Permalink  |  TrackBack (0)

Despite the fact that there appears to be a bad dose of election fever running through the media, I'll stick my neck out and say I don't expect an election until next Spring at the earliest (that should be the cue for Gordon to arrive at Buck House sometime in the next 24 hours).

Why would he want to do it? He has two and a half years left with a good majority and that is plenty of time to allow the Tories to keep tearing themselves to bits. Dave's veered to the left, lurched to the right and swerved towards the centre with all the subtlety of a one-legged slalom skier. Less than 20% of people think Cameron would be a better PM than Brown and he isn't going to get any better. The fake shows of unity at Blackpool will not be sustained when they get back home to the Shires and the cold reality hits them.

I think we're winding up the election to wind up the Tories... and it's working! But don't hold your breath would be my advice. Look out of the window at 6.30pm and take off an hour for the clocks going back, and I think you'll see why an election in November would be madness.

Most Tories only want an election for two reasons.

1. They have an outside chance of winning (remember Heath in 1970) if we have an election now, or at least forcing a hung Parliament where they can try to cobble together an Orange Book coalition.

2. If they lose they can get shot of Dave and Gideon and return to their ghetto with David Davis.

No, I firmly predict no election this Autumn, and probably not one in the Spring or Summer of 2008 either. So, in the immortal words of Frankie.... Relax, don't do it!

Posted by bobpiper on October 3, 2007, 6:52 AM  |  view comments (13) or add another



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jrd168 said:
October 3, 2007 8:33 AM | permalink

I don't think he'll do it, but it hasn't half been fun watching the Tories desperately try and find some policies this last week as they panic about what Gordon might do.




Paul Martin said:
October 3, 2007 9:01 AM | permalink

An election now would look opportunistic so I don't expect a cautious man like Brown to go down that path. I do think there will be a price to pay for not killing this speculation as he will be seen to have played us as fools. I find Brown's conduct through these three months deeply worrying but he's lucky - the Tories are so incompetent that they couldn't organise a prayer meeting in a cathedral.




Bob Piper said:
October 3, 2007 9:10 AM | permalink

Paul... how has he played us for fools? The media have done that. All Brown has done was refused to provide them with an election date and they have done the rest. I suspect, as JRD says, the people he has played for fools are the Tories. They have whipped themselves up into an orgasm of unity... and then they have to go back and face the cold light of another long winter in opposition.




Cassilis said:
October 3, 2007 11:30 AM | permalink

I think you're wrong for a couple of reasons.

(1) Tories don't actually 'want' an election now and Brown knows it. Eternal Tory optimists may cling to 1970 but the realists know an election this year would see Brown returned and Tory meltdown as a consequence. The public 'bring it on' stance is just posturing since they couldn't possibly say anything else given the cries that followed Blair stepping down.

(2) The other reason is the old mis-quote on 'events, dear boy, events'. If he goes now Brown can manufacture some tension with his EU counterparts on 18/19th of Oct over the EU treaty (suggested in the Gaurdian today) and so neutralise that issue. The economy is still reasonably strong but almost every non-partisan economic expert predicts things will worsen because they always do no matter who's in office. Any delay turns those to positives into negatives not to mention allowing the possibility of scandals etc. which after a decade in power are almost inevitable (cue Newmania on how it didn't take a decade for evil Labour to get embroiled in scandal - sorry!)

Believe me Bob, as a moderate Tory (for the moment - I am shifting) the last thing the Tories need now is an election and so if Brown's wise he'll text Lizzie pretty soon...




Gareth Williams said:
October 3, 2007 12:31 PM | permalink

I hope GB has not overlooked that in Wales & in Jockland the hard core of actavists who provide the admin etc services at an Election are rapidley running out of leave from our employers.

Here in this part of Wales this year 1 assembly election, and 5 Council byelections (2 holds. 2 gains + 1 "walk over") And yes, much of the printing etc was done for the "walkover" before the Nats ran away.

I do not relish a General Election in November.




Bob Piper said:
October 3, 2007 12:51 PM | permalink

Time will tell, Cassilis... I'll stick with my prediction of no election, despite the fact that Tom Watson is running around like a madman getting ready to go.

(By the way, are you shifting from moderate - and if so, why - or shifting from Conservative?)

Gareth, that's a good point on annual leave, but when did central government ever give a thought for local government?




Gareth Williams said:
October 3, 2007 1:16 PM | permalink

Bob, in my time I have had to put up with much abuse etc from the left, this I can tolerate - But to accuse me of working for local government .....!




Cassilis said:
October 3, 2007 1:22 PM | permalink

I've always thought the distance between people like me (genuinely moderate Tories on the party's left) and those on the reforming right-wing end of Labour is far smaller than the internal distance between me and the Ancram / Heffer mob of Tories.

I only joined the Tories last year in the belief that:

(1) Brown wasn't commited to the centrist route set out by Blair and would move swiftly left and

(2) Cameron's reforms would be genuine and deep and he'd rid the party of it's nasty insular wing and resurrect 'one nation' toryism.

The last few months suggest I may be wrong on both counts - if so I would feel far more comfortable (not actually 'comfortable' mind, just more so) on the reforming centrist wing of Labour than the rump of modernisers in the Tories.

If Brown goes now I suspect the Tories will lose, Fox or Davis will take over and you'll have to move me on your sidebar.




Bob Piper said:
October 3, 2007 1:30 PM | permalink

Gareth, I wasn't, but certainly around here most staff working on elections tend to be local government employees.

Cassilis, you would be more than welcome.




In Actual Fact said:
October 3, 2007 10:26 PM | permalink

Ah, but didn't Frankie also talk about Two Tribes going to war?




Chris Paul said:
October 3, 2007 11:15 PM | permalink

I'm still insisting it'll be June 2009. But many comrades and colleagues disagree of course.

Meanwhile we have had a little delve on this Gove Youth Militia story here. Gove's other side kick spoke up for Labour in effect in 2005. And the co-founder of the Sufi Muslim org is a LP apparatchik.

It is no wonder that he was looking embarrassed to be introduced as a Tory by the naughty dissembling Tory.




Johnthestudent said:
October 4, 2007 12:54 AM | permalink

God I hope there's an election! I'm bored. Bored Bored Bored. B-O-R-E-D. Has anybody read 'The Man Who Was Thursday' by GK Chesterton by the way? Its a good book

P.S. Who is this Casillas person? He seems a nice fellow.




Bob Piper said:
October 4, 2007 8:05 AM | permalink

John, read his blog... it's on the sidebar (currently listed as being on the 'right')





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